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		<title>Comment on grep by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2007/09/10/grep/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grep is one of the most useful unix command line utilities, and used with regular expressions can be very powerful</description>
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		<title>Comment on anti-sat nav by Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2007/07/12/anti-sat-nav/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of Douglas Adams' zen art of navigation: "find someone who looks like he knows where he's going, and follow him".
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of Douglas Adams&#8217; zen art of navigation: &#8220;find someone who looks like he knows where he&#8217;s going, and follow him&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on meet the new boss, same as the old boss&#8230; by ian_cuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2006/05/11/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>ian_cuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 22:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see the new brooms and all that. Which event are they on about anyway Danny?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see the new brooms and all that. Which event are they on about anyway Danny?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Efficiencies&#8230;blah blah blah by Tom Raggett</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2006/05/05/efficienciesblah-blah-blah/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried directionless.gov?

&lt;a href="http://www.directionlessgov.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.directionlessgov.com/&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.directionlessgov.com/about.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.directionlessgov.com/about.html&lt;/a&gt;

Genius.

But absolutely agree with the astonishment at the lack of quality on Directgov.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried directionless.gov?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.directionlessgov.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.directionlessgov.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.directionlessgov.com/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.directionlessgov.com/about.html</a></p>
<p>Genius.</p>
<p>But absolutely agree with the astonishment at the lack of quality on Directgov.</p>
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		<title>Comment on sorted! by chuckie</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2006/03/10/sorted/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>chuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, there is even an extension to firefox that allows you to load ie *within* firefox for those dumbf*ck web developers who produce browser challenged sites,  Go to &lt;a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1419&#038;application=firefox" rel="nofollow"&gt;https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1419&#038;application=firefox&lt;/a&gt;

PS with the new version of this blog engine we can make comments more open, what do you think?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, there is even an extension to firefox that allows you to load ie *within* firefox for those dumbf*ck web developers who produce browser challenged sites,  Go to <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1419&#038;application=firefox" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1419&#038;application=firefox</a></p>
<p>PS with the new version of this blog engine we can make comments more open, what do you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on dread broadcasting corporation by overhill</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2005/07/27/dread-broadcasting-corporation/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>overhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digitize the tapes and we can P2P them easily.  No copyright issues?  There is a huge audience.  A lot easier than broadcasting too.

Charles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digitize the tapes and we can P2P them easily.  No copyright issues?  There is a huge audience.  A lot easier than broadcasting too.</p>
<p>Charles</p>
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		<title>Comment on firefox by overhill</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/12/31/firefox/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>overhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danny,

Don't know if you use Thunderbird, I'm reading this via an RSS feed using it.  Also loads of extensions etc to play with.  On FF I use adblock - try it with the Guardian site.  They have the nerve to charge for this service.  Adblock does it free.

Charles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if you use Thunderbird, I&#8217;m reading this via an RSS feed using it.  Also loads of extensions etc to play with.  On FF I use adblock - try it with the Guardian site.  They have the nerve to charge for this service.  Adblock does it free.</p>
<p>Charles</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Source Film by overhill</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/09/27/open-source-film/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>overhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It works with my Firefox - using linux :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works with my Firefox - using linux <img src='http://www.artofgov.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on the art of blogging by overhill</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/09/26/the-art-of-blogging/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>overhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can now!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bill Gates does it again&#8230; by Charles Shearer</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/06/18/bill-gates-does-it-again/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Gates theme:

Microsoft's Brazilian subsidiary has taken the country's leading open source advocate to court over what it calls defamatory remarks. Sergio Amadeu, president of the National Institute of Information Technology (ITI), a software libre consultancy, compared Microsoft's Windows license discounts for the public sector to running a "drug dealer practice". Brazil is moving towards open source at a pace, with central government and education leading the way. The magazine in which Amadeu's comments appeared last month is also named in the request.

From The Register &lt;a href="http://www.theregister.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.theregister.com&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Gates theme:</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s Brazilian subsidiary has taken the country&#8217;s leading open source advocate to court over what it calls defamatory remarks. Sergio Amadeu, president of the National Institute of Information Technology (ITI), a software libre consultancy, compared Microsoft&#8217;s Windows license discounts for the public sector to running a &#8220;drug dealer practice&#8221;. Brazil is moving towards open source at a pace, with central government and education leading the way. The magazine in which Amadeu&#8217;s comments appeared last month is also named in the request.</p>
<p>From The Register <a href="http://www.theregister.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on eGovernment site compliant shock! by Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/11/egovernment-site-compliant-shock/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 03:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definately not related to screen size.  I work on a 21" monitor but I never use the browser fullscreen.  Even full screen it has the same effect.  It can be one of the problems of positional stylesheets though.

I'm using opera 7.23 on a linux box at the moment.  I've just resized the browser window and it behaves really well, it is quite impressive (and it is telling direct.gov that it is opera, not IE or mozilla).

Directgov.gov.uk sums up for me the problems with the proliferation of .gov sites.  I work for a .gov and I find the .gov site naming labyrinthine and even recursive in some cases.  They are /so/ unmemorable and/or confusing. 

Direct.gov should be consistent with govtalk.gov.uk I suppose, but it just sounds like "guv" endlessly repeated to me!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definately not related to screen size.  I work on a 21&#8243; monitor but I never use the browser fullscreen.  Even full screen it has the same effect.  It can be one of the problems of positional stylesheets though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using opera 7.23 on a linux box at the moment.  I&#8217;ve just resized the browser window and it behaves really well, it is quite impressive (and it is telling direct.gov that it is opera, not IE or mozilla).</p>
<p>Directgov.gov.uk sums up for me the problems with the proliferation of .gov sites.  I work for a .gov and I find the .gov site naming labyrinthine and even recursive in some cases.  They are /so/ unmemorable and/or confusing. </p>
<p>Direct.gov should be consistent with govtalk.gov.uk I suppose, but it just sounds like &#8220;guv&#8221; endlessly repeated to me!</p>
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		<title>Comment on eGovernment site compliant shock! by John Cowpertwait</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/11/egovernment-site-compliant-shock/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowpertwait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 19:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is related to screen size? - I work on 17" screen - you?

Another anomaly with this site is its name - 'Directgov' is the name of the site, but the URL is 'www.direct.gov.uk' - logically (but tautologically) shouldn't it be 'www.directgov.gov.uk'?

If I was booking up the URL's on behalf of the department running this site, I'd have snapped that one up and routed it to my site before something else, such as a critical mirrorsite perhaps, is put in place.

Where possible, I'd also do the same with 'www.govdirect.gov.uk' (which seems a much more intuitive name to me) and other variations, including all final extensions and possible typos on each.

Weirdly, www.govdirect.co.uk takes you to a for sale domain 'airportpark.co.uk'

Interestingly, 'www.gov.uk' does take you to the Directgov site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is related to screen size? - I work on 17&#8243; screen - you?</p>
<p>Another anomaly with this site is its name - &#8216;Directgov&#8217; is the name of the site, but the URL is &#8216;www.direct.gov.uk&#8217; - logically (but tautologically) shouldn&#8217;t it be &#8216;www.directgov.gov.uk&#8217;?</p>
<p>If I was booking up the URL&#8217;s on behalf of the department running this site, I&#8217;d have snapped that one up and routed it to my site before something else, such as a critical mirrorsite perhaps, is put in place.</p>
<p>Where possible, I&#8217;d also do the same with &#8216;www.govdirect.gov.uk&#8217; (which seems a much more intuitive name to me) and other variations, including all final extensions and possible typos on each.</p>
<p>Weirdly, <a href="http://www.govdirect.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.govdirect.co.uk</a> takes you to a for sale domain &#8216;airportpark.co.uk&#8217;</p>
<p>Interestingly, &#8216;www.gov.uk&#8217; does take you to the Directgov site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on budzak&#8217;s law of technical change by James</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/05/budzaks-law-of-technical-change/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2004 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homer Simpson quote 'I have a wife, kids, and a job and I still manage to fit in 7 hours of tv a day'
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homer Simpson quote &#8216;I have a wife, kids, and a job and I still manage to fit in 7 hours of tv a day&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on budzak&#8217;s law of technical change by James Budzak</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/05/budzaks-law-of-technical-change/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>James Budzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2004 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dad - well done on finally getting Sky, now we can watch the new episodes of the Simpsons, Futurama and the football.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dad - well done on finally getting Sky, now we can watch the new episodes of the Simpsons, Futurama and the football.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eGovernment site compliant shock! by Charles Shearer</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/11/egovernment-site-compliant-shock/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 19:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious.  I looked at this again on an NT box with IE 5.5 and all was as expected (which I didn't expect!).  I've checked a couple of other machines with XP with IE6.0.2800 and they definately do not like this site at all.  I think it is an IE thing.

I agree that the site looks good (when displayed correctly) and seems very useable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious.  I looked at this again on an NT box with IE 5.5 and all was as expected (which I didn&#8217;t expect!).  I&#8217;ve checked a couple of other machines with XP with IE6.0.2800 and they definately do not like this site at all.  I think it is an IE thing.</p>
<p>I agree that the site looks good (when displayed correctly) and seems very useable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eGovernment site compliant shock! by John Cowpertwait</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cowpertwait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting!

I am using IE6 and Directgov looks fine to me - news is in the top right hand corner.

The Directgov site was quite well received by users when we looked at it as part of a bigger project a few weeks ago. 

Users like the blocks of information and the 'Do it online' section was particularly well received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting!</p>
<p>I am using IE6 and Directgov looks fine to me - news is in the top right hand corner.</p>
<p>The Directgov site was quite well received by users when we looked at it as part of a bigger project a few weeks ago. </p>
<p>Users like the blocks of information and the &#8216;Do it online&#8217; section was particularly well received.</p>
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		<title>Comment on budzak&#8217;s law of technical change by Charles Shearer</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/05/budzaks-law-of-technical-change/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2004 19:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a catapulting Budzak phenomenon combined with a bit of convergence!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Metadata, e-government and the language of democracy by John Cowpertwait</title>
		<link>http://www.artofgov.com/2004/05/10/metadata-e-government-and-the-language-of-democracy/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowpertwait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2004 18:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danny 

Your article looks good and is quite a good read, although I am confused by the atoms and swimming pools metaphor(s). 

Also, I wonder if the article supports and thus perpetuates the myth of public democracy apathy, rather than explores or deconstructs it. 

Our findings at UsabilityWorks time and time again suggest that, while the public itself initially verbally supports the idea promoted by politicians and the media that there is general apathy to voting, elections, politics in general and local democratic issues in particular, the reality is, in fact, the opposite.
 
Apart from the initial assertion of apathy to the political process, we have actually found little evidence of it once we start digging around. Rather, once people get going on local democratic issues and they see someone listening and responding, they are well away: many good ideas, many sensible opinions, many unvoiced views. 

The evidence suggests that people feel that anything they have to say will not be heard and will have little effect within the current system. So, they have learnt not to waste their time. 

This is not apathy. It is frustration, scepticism, and, dare I say it, fermenting anger. 

As often, it is the system that is at fault, not the user. The user is simply circumventing/ignoring a system that doesn't cater to their needs and doesn't work properly. 

 
Best, 

John Cowpertwait
UsabilityWorks Limited
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny </p>
<p>Your article looks good and is quite a good read, although I am confused by the atoms and swimming pools metaphor(s). </p>
<p>Also, I wonder if the article supports and thus perpetuates the myth of public democracy apathy, rather than explores or deconstructs it. </p>
<p>Our findings at UsabilityWorks time and time again suggest that, while the public itself initially verbally supports the idea promoted by politicians and the media that there is general apathy to voting, elections, politics in general and local democratic issues in particular, the reality is, in fact, the opposite.</p>
<p>Apart from the initial assertion of apathy to the political process, we have actually found little evidence of it once we start digging around. Rather, once people get going on local democratic issues and they see someone listening and responding, they are well away: many good ideas, many sensible opinions, many unvoiced views. </p>
<p>The evidence suggests that people feel that anything they have to say will not be heard and will have little effect within the current system. So, they have learnt not to waste their time. </p>
<p>This is not apathy. It is frustration, scepticism, and, dare I say it, fermenting anger. </p>
<p>As often, it is the system that is at fault, not the user. The user is simply circumventing/ignoring a system that doesn&#8217;t cater to their needs and doesn&#8217;t work properly. </p>
<p>Best, </p>
<p>John Cowpertwait<br />
UsabilityWorks Limited</p>
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